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Air bubbles in syringe — my results so far

marco_milano Thu, Apr 24, 2025 at 9:17 PM 15 replies 1,410 viewsPage 2 of 3
DerekSJ_a1c
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Apr 25, 2025 at 12:07 AM#6

Something nobody's mentioned — the cardiometabolic secondary endpoints were also meaningfully different:

MarkerTirz changeSema change
Waist circumference-17.8 cm-12.4 cm
Triglycerides-32.4%-21.6%
HDL-C+8.7%+4.3%
Systolic BP-7.2 mmHg-5.1 mmHg
hsCRP-58.3%-42.1%

The triglyceride and HDL improvements are really noteworthy and likely GIP-mediated. GIP receptors on adipocytes play a role in lipid storage and mobilization that GLP-1 alone doesn't replicate.

Also the hsCRP reduction suggests a more robust anti-inflammatory effect, which is consistent with the SURMOUNT-OSA and cardiovascular sub-studies.

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Apr 25, 2025 at 12:24 AM#7

Ok those cardiometabolic numbers are admittedly impressive. The triglyceride difference is hard to argue with.

I stand by my point about individual variation though. My sister lost 22% on Wegovy alone. I'm at 19% on tirz 12.5mg. Genetics are wild 🤷‍♀️

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Apr 25, 2025 at 12:41 AM#8

Totally fair Susan. The best GLP-1 RA is the one that works for YOU, that you can access, and that you can tolerate. Population-level data informs clinical decision-making but individual responses vary enormously.

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Apr 25, 2025 at 12:58 AM#9

can someone explain this to me like im 5? is mounjaro just better than ozempic or not? my doctor offered me either one and i have no idea what to pick 😅

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Apr 25, 2025 at 1:15 AM#10
PedsEndoPhilly said:
can someone explain this to me like im 5? is mounjaro just better than ozempic or not? my doctor offered me either one a...

Short version: On average, tirzepatide (Mounjaro/Zepbound) produces more weight loss than semaglutide (Ozempic/Wegovy). But "on average" is doing heavy lifting in that sentence. Both are very effective. Talk to your doctor about which one your insurance covers, what side effects you're most concerned about, and whether you have other conditions (like high triglycerides) that might favor one over the other.

You genuinely cannot go wrong with either one. Congrats on starting the journey!

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