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Has anyone dealt with what vendors shut down in 2025? the full list is scary?

TrialNerd_Beth Mon, Jun 17, 2024 at 1:34 AM 26 replies 2,047 viewsPage 1 of 6
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TrialNerd_Beth
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Jun 17, 2024 at 2:59 AM#1
I'm an analytical chemist with 8 years of experience in pharmaceutical QC. I've been reviewing vendor COAs (Certificates of Analysis) posted on this forum for the past year, and I need to show you all how easy it is to fake these documents and how to spot the fakes. I've identified at least 7 vendors currently using fabricated COAs. Here's how they do it and how to catch them. METHOD 1: The Photoshop Template The most common method. They take a real COA from a legitimate lab, photoshop the vendor name, batch number, and results. Telltale signs: - Font inconsistencies (different fonts in header vs. results) - Resolution differences between the template and added text - Lab logo is blurry or pixelated (screenshot of a screenshot) - Metadata on the PDF shows it was created in Photoshop or Canva, not analytical software METHOD 2: The Fake Lab Vendor creates a completely fictional laboratory. They make up a lab name, create a professional-looking template, and generate whatever numbers they want. Signs: - Lab name doesn't appear in any accreditation databases - Lab address doesn't exist or is a residential address - Lab phone number is disconnected or goes to a generic voicemail - No presence on Google Scholar or in any published literature METHOD 3: The Selective Report Vendor actually sends product to a real lab, but only publishes the ONE good result and hides the failures. This is technically real data but deeply misleading. Signs: - Only one COA for dozens of batches - COA is months old but being used for recent batches - Batch number on COA doesn't match your vial METHOD 4: The Altered Real Report Vendor gets a real test done, results come back bad, so they alter the numbers. Signs: - Contact the lab directly with the report number β€” they can verify - Numbers seem "too perfect" (exactly 99.5% purity, exactly 10.00mg content) - HPLC chromatogram doesn't match the stated purity (if chromatogram is included) I'll go into detail on each in the replies with specific examples I've found.
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tommy_boulder
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Jun 17, 2024 at 3:16 AM#2
EXAMPLE 1 β€” PurityFirst Peptides (Blacklisted) Their COA claimed to be from "Advanced Analytical Laboratories" in San Diego. I investigated: - No such lab exists in San Diego - The address on the COA is a UPS Store - The "lab director" name doesn't appear in any LinkedIn, publication, or professional database - The HPLC chromatogram on the COA was literally copied from a textbook (I found the original image) The COA claimed: - Semaglutide purity: 99.2% - Content: 10.04mg per vial - Endotoxin: <0.1 EU/mg - Sterility: Pass When the product was actually tested by Janoshik: - Purity: 86.3% - Content: 6.1mg (61% of label) - The peptide showed significant degradation peaks Everything on their COA was fabricated. The lab, the director, the results β€” all of it.
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Dr.AddMedPHL
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Jun 17, 2024 at 3:33 AM#3
EXAMPLE 2 β€” How to Verify a Janoshik Report Since Janoshik is the most commonly cited lab, vendors sometimes fake Janoshik reports too. Here's how to verify: 1. Every Janoshik report has a unique report number (format: JAN-YYYY-XXXXX) 2. You can email Janoshik directly at their published email and ask them to confirm a report number 3. Real Janoshik reports have consistent formatting, fonts, and layout 4. The HPLC chromatogram on a real report will show specific peaks with retention times β€” these are difficult to convincingly fake I found one vendor ("ResearchGradePeptides") posting a Janoshik report that had been altered. The report number was real, but the purity had been changed from 91.2% to 98.7%. I confirmed this by contacting Janoshik directly. ALWAYS verify COAs directly with the lab. A 30-second email can save you from buying garbage.
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Jun 17, 2024 at 3:50 AM#4
this is incredible work. Question: what percentage of vendor COAs that you've reviewed do you estimate are fraudulent or misleading? Also β€” if a vendor provides a Janoshik report and I verify it's real, does that guarantee my specific vial is good? Or could they have tested one batch and be selling different (worse) batches under the same COA?
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Jun 17, 2024 at 4:07 AM#5
Great questions. Estimate of fraudulent/misleading COAs: Out of about 40 vendor COAs I've reviewed in the past year, I'd say: - ~30% were clearly fabricated (fake lab or photoshopped) - ~25% were "selective" (real but cherry-picked, old, or mismatched batch) - ~20% were real and matched the product (verified with lab) - ~25% I couldn't conclusively determine And yes, your second concern is valid. A real COA for Batch A doesn't guarantee Batch B is the same quality. This is the "selective reporting" problem. Ideally, every batch would be tested, but most vendors don't do that. The gold standard is: the BUYER sends their specific vial to a lab. That's the only way to know for sure what YOU received is what it should be.
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