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Has anyone dealt with glp-1r expression map?

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Jul 23, 2024 at 8:34 PM#1

I'm about to start semaglutide for weight management. My doctor mentioned the thyroid cancer warning but said not to worry about it. However, looking at the FDA prescribing information, it says in bold capital letters that semaglutide "CAUSES THYROID C-CELL TUMORS" in rodents and that "it is unknown whether [it] causes thyroid C-cell tumors, including medullary thyroid carcinoma (MTC), in humans."

That "unknown" word is what scares me. Can someone with research expertise explain the actual risk? Is the rodent finding relevant to humans or not?

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Jul 23, 2024 at 8:51 PM#2

Your concern is understandable — the boxed warning is intentionally attention-grabbing. Let me walk through the science as clearly as I can.

What happened in rodents: In 2-year carcinogenicity studies (required by FDA for all new drugs), rats treated with liraglutide or semaglutide at doses 2-10x the maximum recommended human dose developed C-cell hyperplasia, C-cell adenomas, and medullary thyroid carcinomas in a dose- and time-dependent manner[1].

Why it happens in rodents: Rat and mouse thyroid C-cells express GLP-1R at high density. When GLP-1R is activated, it stimulates calcitonin secretion and C-cell proliferation. With chronic, continuous GLP-1R agonism (as provided by long-acting analogs), this proliferative stimulus leads to neoplasia over months to years. The mechanism is clear and reproducible in rodents.

Why it almost certainly doesn't happen in humans:

  1. GLP-1R expression: Human thyroid C-cells express GLP-1R at extremely low levels — 10-100x lower than rodent C-cells. Some studies using sensitive techniques detect minimal expression; others detect none[2].
  2. Calcitonin response: In humans, GLP-1 infusion does NOT increase plasma calcitonin levels, unlike in rodents. Clinical trials of semaglutide show no increase in calcitonin over years of treatment[3].
  3. Species difference in C-cell biology: Rodent C-cells are fundamentally different from human C-cells. Rodents have abundant calcitonin-producing cells throughout the thyroid; humans have relatively few, and they are less proliferative. This is a well-known species difference in thyroid biology, not unique to GLP-1 RAs — other drugs (PPIs, calcium) also cause C-cell effects in rodents but not humans.

[1] Bjerre Knudsen L, et al. Endocrinology. 2010;151(4):1473-1486.

[2] Waser B, et al. Mod Pathol. 2015;28(3):391-402.

[3] Hegedüs L, et al. J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2011;96(3):853-860.

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Jul 23, 2024 at 9:08 PM#3

Let me add the epidemiological data, which is the strongest evidence we have for real-world risk assessment.

Clinical trial data: Across all GLP-1 RA cardiovascular outcome trials (LEADER, SUSTAIN-6, REWIND, HARMONY Outcomes, SELECT, AMPLITUDE-O, FLOW), representing well over 50,000 patients and often 3-5 years of exposure, there has been no statistically significant increase in MTC incidence compared to placebo.

Registry data:

  • A French national insurance database study of 2.4 million patients found no increased MTC risk with GLP-1 RA exposure (HR 1.15, 95% CI: 0.60-2.19)[4]
  • A Danish/Swedish registry study similarly found no signal
  • The FDA Sentinel system has monitored this signal and not found cause for concern

The challenge: MTC is extremely rare (2-3 cases per million per year in the general population). To definitively rule out even a 2-fold increase in risk would require enormous studies or very long follow-up. A doubling of risk would mean ~4-6 cases per million per year — still vanishingly rare in absolute terms, and essentially undetectable except in population-level databases with millions of patients.

[4] Bezin J, et al. Diabetes Care. 2023;46(2):384-390.

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Jul 23, 2024 at 9:25 PM#4

To put the risk in perspective, let me compare the theoretical MTC risk to the known benefits:

Theoretical worst-case MTC risk (if GLP-1 RAs doubled the risk):

  • Baseline MTC incidence: ~2 per million per year
  • With GLP-1 RA: ~4 per million per year (if 2x, which is unproven)
  • Excess risk: ~2 per million per year = ~0.0002% per year

Known cardiovascular benefit (SELECT trial):

  • 20% relative risk reduction in MACE
  • Absolute risk reduction: ~1.5% over 3.3 years = ~0.45% per year

Even in the worst-case scenario for MTC (which is not supported by current evidence), the cardiovascular benefit exceeds the theoretical cancer risk by more than 2,000-fold. The risk-benefit calculation isn't even close.

This is why thyroid specialists and endocrinologists generally view the MTC concern as a non-issue for clinical decision-making. The boxed warning exists for regulatory reasons, not because of a genuine clinical signal.

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Jul 23, 2024 at 9:42 PM#5

Should patients get thyroid ultrasounds or calcitonin levels checked before or during GLP-1 RA treatment?

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