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Prior auth denied for the 3rd time - what am I doing wrong — January 2024

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sarah.morrison
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Apr 13, 2024 at 9:10 PM#1

Prior auth denied for the 3rd time - what am I doing wrong — January 2024

Posting this for discussion as it's directly relevant to our insurance & access community. I'll summarize the key findings and then share my interpretation.

Background: Prior auth denied for the 3rd has been a topic of significant interest. The latest data adds substantially to our understanding of the efficacy and safety profile in this area.

Key findings:

  • Primary endpoint met with statistical significance (p<0.001)
  • Effect size consistent with or exceeding Phase 2 projections
  • Adverse event profile in line with the known GLP-1 receptor agonist class effects — primarily GI (nausea 20-25%, diarrhea 12-17%)
  • Subgroup analyses showed benefit across BMI categories, age groups, and baseline metabolic status

My interpretation:

This is meaningful for several reasons. First, it confirms that the results from earlier-phase trials are reproducible at scale. Second, the safety data with longer follow-up is reassuring. Third, the subgroup consistency suggests this isn't driven by a specific patient phenotype.

I'd love to hear from others — especially those with clinical or research backgrounds. What are the limitations you see? What questions remain unanswered?

References:
[1] See thread title for study identification. Full citation available via PubMed/ClinicalTrials.gov.
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Apr 13, 2024 at 9:27 PM#2

Clinical perspective on Prior auth denied for the 3rd time -:

I have managed roughly 300 patients on GLP-1 therapy and this topic comes up frequently. What the data shows — and what I see in practice — is that the medication works best as part of a comprehensive approach.

For this specific question, I would recommend: getting comprehensive baseline labs first.

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Apr 13, 2024 at 9:44 PM#3
GenomicsKate said:
What the data shows — and what I see in practice — is that the medication works best as part of a co

This is exactly right. GenomicsKate articulated what I have been trying to explain to my doctor for months. The Prior auth denied for the aspect is the most important factor.

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Apr 13, 2024 at 10:01 PM#4

Relevant to Prior auth denied for the 3rd — here is my latest bloodwork comparison:

Key improvements: A1C 8.4% → 5.5%, triglycerides 245 → 115 mg/dL, hsCRP 8.0 → 0.9 mg/L. All on tirzepatide for 13 months.

The inflammatory marker drop is what impresses me most. Consistent with the SELECT trial's cardiovascular findings.

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Apr 13, 2024 at 10:18 PM#5
GenomicsKate said:
What the data shows — and what I see in practice — is that the medication works best as part of a co

I respect GenomicsKate perspective but I think this oversimplifies things a bit. Re: Prior auth denied for the 3rd — the effect size varies considerably by population.

I am not saying GenomicsKate wrong entirely — just that the picture is more nuanced than a blanket statement. The SUSTAIN data specifically shows different outcomes in different metabolic phenotypes.

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