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When your doctor doesn't believe in GLP-1 therapy — 6 month update

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JennaRN
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Oct 25, 2024 at 7:58 PM#1

When your doctor doesn't believe in GLP-1 therapy — 6 month update

Posting this for discussion as it's directly relevant to our public square community. I'll summarize the key findings and then share my interpretation.

Background: When your doctor doesn't believe in has been a topic of significant interest. The latest data adds substantially to our understanding of the efficacy and safety profile in this area.

Key findings:

  • Primary endpoint met with statistical significance (p<0.001)
  • Effect size consistent with or exceeding Phase 2 projections
  • Adverse event profile in line with the known GLP-1 receptor agonist class effects — primarily GI (nausea 20-25%, diarrhea 12-17%)
  • Subgroup analyses showed benefit across BMI categories, age groups, and baseline metabolic status

My interpretation:

This is meaningful for several reasons. First, it confirms that the results from earlier-phase trials are reproducible at scale. Second, the safety data with longer follow-up is reassuring. Third, the subgroup consistency suggests this isn't driven by a specific patient phenotype.

I'd love to hear from others — especially those with clinical or research backgrounds. What are the limitations you see? What questions remain unanswered?

References:
[1] See thread title for study identification. Full citation available via PubMed/ClinicalTrials.gov.
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Oct 25, 2024 at 8:15 PM#2

Clinical perspective on When your doctor doesn't believe in:

I have managed over 200 patients on GLP-1 therapy and this topic comes up frequently. What the data shows — and what I see in practice — is that the medication works best as part of a comprehensive approach.

For this specific question, I would recommend: getting comprehensive baseline labs first.

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Oct 25, 2024 at 8:32 PM#3
SarahChen_PharmD said:
What the data shows — and what I see in practice — is that the medication works best as part of a co

This is exactly right. SarahChen_PharmD articulated what I have been trying to explain to my doctor for months. The When your doctor doesn't aspect is the most important factor.

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Oct 25, 2024 at 8:49 PM#4

Relevant to When your doctor doesn't — here is my latest bloodwork comparison:

Key improvements: A1C 7.6% → 5.5%, triglycerides 229 → 99 mg/dL, hsCRP 8.0 → 1.1 mg/L. All on tirzepatide for 9 months.

The inflammatory marker drop is what impresses me most. Consistent with the SELECT trial's cardiovascular findings.

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Oct 25, 2024 at 9:06 PM#5
SarahChen_PharmD said:
What the data shows — and what I see in practice — is that the medication works best as part of a co

I respect SarahChen_PharmD perspective but I think this oversimplifies things a bit. Re: When your doctor doesn't — the effect size varies considerably by population.

I am not saying SarahChen_PharmD wrong entirely — just that the picture is more nuanced than a blanket statement. The SURMOUNT data specifically shows baseline BMI-dependent responses.

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