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FLOW trial: semaglutide renal outcomes — anyone have experience?

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Aug 16, 2025 at 5:17 PM#1

The FLOW trial results were presented at the ERA Congress and simultaneously published in the NEJM by Perkovic et al.[1] This is the first dedicated kidney outcome trial for a GLP-1 RA, and the results are remarkable — so much so that the trial was stopped early for efficacy by the DSMB.

Design: Randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled. N = 3,533 adults with T2D and CKD (eGFR 25-75 mL/min/1.73m2 and UACR 300-5000 mg/g). Semaglutide 1.0 mg SC weekly vs placebo. Originally planned for event-driven completion; stopped early at median 3.4 years.

Primary composite endpoint: Onset of kidney failure (dialysis, transplant, or eGFR < 15), sustained >= 50% reduction in eGFR, or death from kidney or CV causes.

Results:

  • Primary endpoint: HR 0.76 (95% CI: 0.66-0.88), p = 0.0003
  • Kidney-specific composite (excluding CV death): HR 0.79 (95% CI: 0.66-0.94)
  • CV death: HR 0.71 (95% CI: 0.56-0.89)
  • All-cause death: HR 0.80 (95% CI: 0.67-0.95)
  • Annual eGFR slope difference: 1.16 mL/min/1.73m2/year slower decline with semaglutide

The eGFR slope data is particularly impressive. A 1.16 mL/min/year difference might sound small, but over 10 years, that could be the difference between maintaining kidney function and needing dialysis.

For context, SGLT2 inhibitors showed similar magnitude of kidney benefit in CREDENCE and DAPA-CKD[2]. Are we looking at GLP-1 RAs as the next pillar of kidney protection alongside RAAS inhibitors and SGLT2i?

[1] Perkovic V, Tuttle KR, Rossing P, et al. Effects of Semaglutide on Chronic Kidney Disease in Patients with Type 2 Diabetes. N Engl J Med. 2024;391(2):109-121.

[2] Heerspink HJL, et al. N Engl J Med. 2020;383(15):1436-1446.

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Aug 16, 2025 at 5:34 PM#2

Absolutely practice-changing. But let me raise a methodological point that I think is under-discussed: FLOW enrolled patients with T2D. We do not yet have kidney outcome data for semaglutide in CKD without diabetes.

This matters because DAPA-CKD showed benefit in both diabetic and non-diabetic CKD, which expanded the indication dramatically. EMPA-KIDNEY similarly showed benefit regardless of diabetes status[3]. Until we have similar data for GLP-1 RAs, we're limited to the diabetic CKD population.

That said, within the diabetic CKD population, the question of sequencing is fascinating. We already give RAAS inhibitors + SGLT2i. Do we now add semaglutide as a third agent? The FLOW participants had ~55% on SGLT2i at baseline, and the benefit was consistent in that subgroup. That's a strong signal for additive benefit.

[3] The EMPA-KIDNEY Collaborative Group. N Engl J Med. 2023;388(2):117-127.

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Aug 16, 2025 at 5:51 PM#3

Nephrologist here. I want to focus on the acute eGFR dip that was observed with semaglutide in FLOW. There was an initial ~3-4 mL/min decline in eGFR in the semaglutide group in the first few weeks, which then recovered and was followed by a much slower long-term decline compared to placebo.

This pattern is strikingly similar to what we see with SGLT2 inhibitors and RAAS inhibitors — the initial hemodynamic dip followed by long-term nephroprotection. This is thought to reflect reduced intraglomerular pressure (tubuloglomerular feedback with SGLT2i, efferent arteriolar dilation with RAAS inhibitors).

The mechanism with GLP-1 RAs is less clear. Proposed explanations include:

  • Reduced proximal tubular sodium reabsorption (similar to SGLT2i mechanism)
  • Decreased renal plasma flow from natriuresis
  • Anti-inflammatory effects reducing hyperfiltration

Understanding the mechanism matters because if it's additive to SGLT2i (different pathway), then combination therapy has a strong rationale. If it's overlapping, the incremental benefit might plateau.

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Aug 16, 2025 at 6:08 PM#4

Let me put the FLOW numbers in context against the other kidney outcome trials:

TrialDrugPrimary Endpoint HReGFR Slope Benefit
CREDENCECanagliflozin0.70 (0.59-0.82)~1.5 mL/min/yr
DAPA-CKDDapagliflozin0.61 (0.51-0.72)~1.9 mL/min/yr
EMPA-KIDNEYEmpagliflozin0.72 (0.64-0.82)~1.4 mL/min/yr
FLOWSemaglutide0.76 (0.66-0.88)~1.16 mL/min/yr

The SGLT2i trials generally show numerically greater kidney benefit, particularly DAPA-CKD. But direct cross-trial comparison is fraught — different populations, different baseline therapies, different definitions of the composite endpoint. FLOW also had a higher proportion of patients on SGLT2i at baseline, which could attenuate the observed effect.

The KDIGO 2024 guidelines now recommend both SGLT2i and GLP-1 RA for patients with T2D and CKD. We've gone from one pillar (RAAS blockade) to three pillars of kidney protection in the span of 5 years. That's extraordinary progress.

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Aug 16, 2025 at 6:25 PM#5

This is very encouraging. My nephrologist started me on semaglutide specifically because of my CKD (stage 3b, eGFR around 38, T2D). I'm already on losartan and dapagliflozin.

One concern: I had significant nausea with semaglutide that made it hard to maintain nutrition, which my doctor worried about because malnutrition is already a risk with advanced CKD. Did the FLOW trial report on nutritional outcomes or muscle mass changes?

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