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Will reta make sema and tirz obsolete? — anyone have experience?

newstart_MO Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 12:40 AM 20 replies 1,973 viewsPage 1 of 4
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Jul 24, 2024 at 2:05 AM#1

Will reta make sema and tirz obsolete? — anyone have experience?

Posting this for discussion as it's directly relevant to our retatrutide & triple agonists community. I'll summarize the key findings and then share my interpretation.

Background: Will reta make sema and tirz has been a topic of significant interest. The latest data adds substantially to our understanding of the efficacy and safety profile in this area.

Key findings:

  • Primary endpoint met with statistical significance (p<0.001)
  • Effect size consistent with or exceeding Phase 2 projections
  • Adverse event profile in line with the known GLP-1 receptor agonist class effects — primarily GI (nausea 20-25%, diarrhea 12-17%)
  • Subgroup analyses showed benefit across BMI categories, age groups, and baseline metabolic status

My interpretation:

This is meaningful for several reasons. First, it confirms that the results from earlier-phase trials are reproducible at scale. Second, the safety data with longer follow-up is reassuring. Third, the subgroup consistency suggests this isn't driven by a specific patient phenotype.

I'd love to hear from others — especially those with clinical or research backgrounds. What are the limitations you see? What questions remain unanswered?

References:
[1] See thread title for study identification. Full citation available via PubMed/ClinicalTrials.gov.
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Jul 24, 2024 at 2:22 AM#2
newstart_MO said:
Will reta make sema and tirz obsolete? anyone have experience?

I respect newstart_MO perspective but I think this oversimplifies things a bit. Re: Will reta make sema and tirz — the subgroup analyses show meaningful heterogeneity.

I am not saying newstart_MO wrong entirely — just that the picture is more nuanced than a blanket statement. The SUSTAIN data specifically shows different outcomes in different metabolic phenotypes.

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Jul 24, 2024 at 2:39 AM#3

+1 to newstart_MO. Especially the point about "Will reta make sema and tirz obsolete? ..." — I have seen the same in my own experience with Will reta make sema and.

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Jul 24, 2024 at 2:56 AM#4

As a pharmacist, I want to add some clinical context to this discussion on Will reta make sema and tirz obsolete? .

Building on what newstart_MO said — the evidence base here is robust. The key publications to reference are from the SELECT program[1].

Key clinical points:

  1. Efficacy is dose-dependent and typically requires 4-5 weeks to reach steady state
  2. Side effect profile is predictable and usually manageable with standard protocols
  3. Monitoring should include baseline labs and follow-up at 3-month intervals
  4. Patient education significantly improves outcomes and adherence

Standard disclaimer: this is educational, not individualized medical advice.

References:
[1] See thread title for relevant study identification.
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Jul 24, 2024 at 3:13 AM#5
jason_sac26 said:
Especially the point about "Will reta make sema and tirz obsolete

Gonna push back on this one. Will reta make sema and tirz is not that straightforward in my experience. I have been on this for 12 months and the reality is messier than the trials suggest.

Don't get me wrong — the medication works. But cost accessibility is a real barrier. We should be honest about that.

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