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Patient preference: weekly injection vs potential monthly depot — July 2024

Dr.PainCLE Sat, Oct 14, 2023 at 8:16 AM 15 replies 2,193 viewsPage 1 of 3
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Oct 14, 2023 at 9:41 AM#1

One trend in the pipeline that doesn't get enough attention: the move toward monthly (or even less frequent) dosing. Current GLP-1 agonists require weekly injections, but several companies are developing ultra-long-acting formulations.

The most advanced is ecnoglutide (formerly known as XW004), a GLP-1 receptor agonist engineered for monthly subcutaneous dosing. Early clinical data showed:

  • Sustained GLP-1 receptor engagement over 4+ weeks from a single injection
  • Preliminary weight loss data suggesting comparable efficacy to weekly GLP-1 RAs
  • Acceptable tolerability profile (though GI events at injection were noted)

Other monthly approaches in development:

  • Novo Nordisk: Investigating long-acting depot formulations of semaglutide
  • Various biotechs: Exploring implantable devices, microparticle formulations, and antibody-drug conjugates for extended release

The obvious appeal: inject once a month instead of four times. Better adherence, fewer injection-site reactions, and potentially smoother pharmacokinetics without weekly peaks and troughs.

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Dr.DermMIA
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Oct 14, 2023 at 9:58 AM#2

Monthly injections would be AMAZING. I actually forget my weekly tirzepatide injection about once every 6 weeks. I set reminders but life gets busy, I'm traveling, whatever. Having to remember only 12 times per year instead of 52 would help a lot with adherence.

My concern though — what happens if you get terrible nausea from a monthly dose? With weekly injections, you know the side effects will ease up in a day or two. With a monthly depot, are you stuck being nauseous for weeks? 😰

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Oct 14, 2023 at 10:15 AM#3

That's actually the biggest pharmacological challenge with monthly formulations. The slow-release kinetics should theoretically produce more stable drug levels (avoiding the peak-and-trough pattern of weekly dosing), which might actually reduce GI side effects since many of them correlate with the post-injection peak.

However, the flip side is exactly what you described: if a patient has an adverse reaction, you can't easily "un-inject" a depot formulation. With weekly dosing, you can skip a dose, reduce the dose, or wait it out for a few days. A monthly depot releases drug continuously for 4 weeks regardless.

This is likely why the clinical development programs for monthly GLP-1s will need very careful dose titration protocols and may require starting patients on weekly formulations first to confirm tolerability before switching to monthly.

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Oct 14, 2023 at 10:32 AM#4

Adherence data supports the argument for less frequent dosing. A meta-analysis of chronic disease medications showed:

  • Daily dosing: ~50-60% adherence at 12 months
  • Weekly dosing: ~60-70% adherence at 12 months
  • Monthly dosing: ~70-80% adherence at 12 months

For GLP-1 specifically, real-world data shows that approximately 30-40% of patients prescribed weekly semaglutide or tirzepatide are non-persistent at 12 months (stopped filling prescriptions). Some of that is cost/access, but convenience and injection burden are significant factors.

If a monthly formulation could reduce the non-persistence rate by even 10 percentage points, the population-level health impact would be enormous.

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Oct 14, 2023 at 10:49 AM#5

Would monthly injections be more painful since you'd need a larger dose in one shot? I already find the weekly injection uncomfortable sometimes.

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