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Liver biopsy changes on semaglutide — looking for input

Dr.GutHealth Wed, Jul 24, 2024 at 8:18 AM 29 replies 2,184 viewsPage 2 of 6
MikeNYC_runner
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Jul 24, 2024 at 11:08 AM#6

I'm a bit confused. I thought GLP-1 drugs were for weight loss and diabetes. How does something that reduces appetite protect the kidneys? What's the actual mechanism?

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SarahChen_PharmD
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Jul 24, 2024 at 11:25 AM#7

Excellent question. The renal benefit likely involves multiple mechanisms beyond weight loss and glucose control:

  1. Reduced intraglomerular pressure: GLP-1 promotes natriuresis (sodium excretion) at the proximal tubule, which reduces glomerular hyperfiltration — a major driver of CKD progression
  2. Anti-inflammatory effects: CKD is characterized by chronic kidney inflammation. GLP-1 RAs reduce renal expression of inflammatory mediators (NF-κB, MCP-1)
  3. Anti-fibrotic effects: Preclinical data shows GLP-1 RAs reduce TGF-β signaling and renal fibrosis
  4. Improved endothelial function: Better renal blood flow autoregulation
  5. Metabolic improvements: Better glycemic control, reduced hyperinsulinemia, lower blood pressure, and improved lipids all independently benefit kidney health

GLP-1 receptors are expressed throughout the kidney, including in the proximal tubule, glomerular endothelium, and juxtaglomerular apparatus. So this is not just a systemic metabolic effect — there's direct renal pharmacology at work.

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Jul 24, 2024 at 11:42 AM#8

I'll add one more critical point: FLOW also showed a 20% reduction in all-cause mortality (HR 0.80; 95% CI, 0.67-0.95). This is arguably the most important finding because mortality is the hardest endpoint to move.

For a population with T2DM and CKD — which carries a 5-year mortality rate of 20-30% — a 20% relative mortality reduction translates to a meaningful number of lives saved. Combined with the evidence from SELECT (where semaglutide trended toward mortality reduction in the CV population), we're seeing a consistent signal that semaglutide extends life.

The early trial termination for efficacy should underscore the robustness of these findings. Data monitoring committees don't make that decision lightly — it means the evidence was so strong that it would have been unethical to continue withholding the drug from the placebo group.

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Jul 24, 2024 at 11:59 AM#9

Thank you all for this discussion. Very helpful for someone like me who is living with CKD and T2DM. I feel much more informed about why my nephrologist is adding semaglutide and what I should expect. The eGFR slope data is particularly encouraging — slowing the decline by 47% could mean years more before I'd need dialysis, if ever.

I'll share my labs after 6 months on the combination regimen.

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